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#741 User is offline   Biscuit 

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 12:48 AM

View PostBaked, on 12 April 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

You were definitely Christian back on HaloForum/AusHalo. You explicitly stated as such several times.


I remember this.

Tag team in?

View PostIm Beware, on 07 August 2010 - 01:17 AM, said:

Biscuits word is law
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 12:52 AM

View PostSlazy, on 13 April 2012 - 12:43 AM, said:

Saying that because things happen that isn't in Gods will proves/means there is no God is something utterly ridiculous. @seeker.

I dont understand people thinking that God should control everything/everyone and has power of everything/everyone. Just face palm so hard when people post as if God HAS to be like this, or God is not a God.


I don't understand the point of trying to define what god does or doesn't do when it's existence can't even be proven...

Seriously though, don't you think it's a bit ridiculous that something able to create the entire universe wouldn't be able to control a hurricane?

Also: Can you please answer why you judged Dawkins based on things you'd heard about him, without ever actually reading anything of his?

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Biscuits word is law
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 12:57 AM

View PostBiscuit, on 13 April 2012 - 12:52 AM, said:

I don't understand the point of trying to define what god does or doesn't do when it's existence can't even be proven...

Seriously though, don't you think it's a bit ridiculous that something able to create the entire universe wouldn't be able to control a hurricane?

Also: Can you please answer why you judged Dawkins based on things you'd heard about him, without ever actually reading anything of his?

No I dont think its ridiculous at all.

I read some articles on and also saw him mentioned in some TV shows, along with his views, with opinions about him. I dont understand why you are fussing over this Biscuit, people judge and make opinions all the time.

Also what Adz said.

View PostAdz, on 12 April 2012 - 06:21 PM, said:

I cant wait until religion is dead so the world can be filled with condescending arrogant assholes just like this thread is :)

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 01:50 AM

View PostBiscuit, on 13 April 2012 - 12:48 AM, said:

I remember this.

Tag team in?


Let's do this. Good old "Religion" thread days all over again.
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 02:20 AM

Well that 38 pages did no good at all. Just let people believe what they want, there's no point in trying to disprove the existence of God.
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 02:36 AM

View PostSlazy, on 12 April 2012 - 02:58 PM, said:


Your initial post implies that God made diseases?

Correct, if God created the universe (and life as Tricide says) he had to create diseases.. Therefore God wasted time in creating diseases to control the size of population (as Tricide said was the "reason" for diseases) when he could have limited population size by designing our reproductive system differently.. Then God wouldn't have had to waste time by allowing us to find cures (as Tricide says)..

Joseph Smith was dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb..
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:01 AM

View PostlI Homicide lI, on 13 April 2012 - 02:36 AM, said:

Correct, if God created the universe (and life as Tricide says) he had to create diseases.. Therefore God wasted time in creating diseases to control the size of population (as Tricide said was the "reason" for diseases) when he could have limited population size by designing our reproductive system differently.. Then God wouldn't have had to waste time by allowing us to find cures (as Tricide says)..

Joseph Smith was dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb..

So by your logic God created fire, contraception, wheels, penacilin, medicine, clothes, electricity, female rights, etc etc ?

God is pretty dumb aye.
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 07:55 AM

View PostSlazy, on 13 April 2012 - 03:01 AM, said:

God is pretty dumb aye.


Finally you are starting to understand.
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 08:33 AM

View PostlI Homicide lI, on 13 April 2012 - 02:36 AM, said:

Correct, if God created the universe (and life as Tricide says) he had to create diseases.. Therefore God wasted time in creating diseases to control the size of population (as Tricide said was the "reason" for diseases) when he could have limited population size by designing our reproductive system differently.. Then God wouldn't have had to waste time by allowing us to find cures (as Tricide says)..

Joseph Smith was dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb..


FFS. Do you not read ANYTHING??

I said that all FROM MY OWN LOGICAL VIEW AND BELIEF. I have no idea why he really made diseases and "bad" things, but there is obviously a reason for it.

As for "discovering" things, doesn't it make you feel good when you figure out a solution to a problem? Maybe, we are SUPPOSED to learn something on the Earth before we die? There's lot's of things that something could be.


This is an opinionated thread btw, calling someone "dumb" just shows everyone how ignorant you are of other people's beliefs and an unwillingness to accept someone's opinion as their own.



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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:24 AM

View PostSlazy, on 13 April 2012 - 03:01 AM, said:

So by your logic God created fire, contraception, wheels, penacilin, medicine, clothes, electricity, female rights, etc etc ?

God is pretty dumb aye.


It sounds to me like you don't understand what disease is or what penicillin is.

God created all life on earth right? Bacteria and other microorganisms cause disease in humans and god created them so it seems pretty fair to blame him.

Penicillin is a chemical derived from a fungus that evolved a mechanism to kill bacteria that were in competition for nutrients it required. Once again it was a natural process. (albeit one that humans now purify etc.)

When you compare organisms that god supposedly created and their byproducts to abstract concepts that humans came up with like women's rights (funny choice considering how sexist religion tends to be) you just make yourself look ridiculous.



View PostTricide, on 13 April 2012 - 08:33 AM, said:

I said that all FROM MY OWN LOGICAL VIEW AND BELIEF. I have no idea why he really made diseases and "bad" things, but there is obviously a reason for it.


Just because it is your belief doesn't make it logical. You can claim it all you want though.

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As for "discovering" things, doesn't it make you feel good when you figure out a solution to a problem? Maybe, we are SUPPOSED to learn something on the Earth before we die? There's lot's of things that something could be.


If we are supposed to figure out certain things doesn't that mean that god has a specific plan for us? If there is such a thing as destiny i don't understand how we are supposed to have free will at the same time...

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This is an opinionated thread btw, calling someone "dumb" just shows everyone how ignorant you are of other people's beliefs and an unwillingness to accept someone's opinion as their own.


"You are entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts."

Having an opinion does not automatically make it valid. If your opinion isn't informed based on fact (whether that be out of deliberate ignorance or a lack of evidence) then it simply isn't logical or valid.

View PostIm Beware, on 07 August 2010 - 01:17 AM, said:

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:16 AM

View PostTricide, on 13 April 2012 - 08:33 AM, said:



And yeah, I am an LDS, or better known as a Mormon, what of it?

You are a f***ing Idiot who believes what they were told from Birth and hasn't yet developed the ability to question what you have been brain washed with...

The only LDS I have talked to who has actually abandon his religion said that it is a brain-washing cult.. Also his family don't talk to him any more due to his leaving..

Before you devote you life to what your have grown up around, expore other possibilities.. Look into other religions and realise they are just as plausible (if not more plausible) as LDS.. What you need to realise is that if you were born into a Hindu family, you would believe that Hinduism is correct.. It is only chance that you believe what you believe.. And with all the opposing religions of the world, what is the chance that yours is correct..? Seriously think about that..

View PostTricide, on 13 April 2012 - 08:33 AM, said:


I said that all FROM MY OWN LOGICAL VIEW AND BELIEF. I have no idea why he really made diseases and "bad" things, but there is obviously a reason for it.


It is just as likely that there is no reason for it... Don't assume things like that.. If there is evidence to suggest it, perhaps it could be true, but there isn't evidence to suggest God had a plan for "bad things"..
Why is that your logical view and belief when you " have no idea why he really made diseases and "bad" things"..?
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:19 AM

Religion is basically this.

Born into it

Turn to it after committing a crime.

Turn to it to give your sh** ass life some pathetic hollow meaning.

I really do feel sorry for people who are born into it.
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:52 AM

View PostSlayerx, on 13 April 2012 - 10:19 AM, said:

Religion is basically this.

Born into it

Turn to it after committing a crime.

Turn to it to give your sh** ass life some pathetic hollow meaning.

I really do feel sorry for people who are born into it.

I was born into it and I was baptised... However I'm partial responsible for convincing my parents out of it..
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 12:57 PM

View PostBiscuit, on 13 April 2012 - 09:24 AM, said:

It sounds to me like you don't understand what disease is or what penicillin is.

God created all life on earth right? Bacteria and other microorganisms cause disease in humans and god created them so it seems pretty fair to blame him.

Penicillin is a chemical derived from a fungus that evolved a mechanism to kill bacteria that were in competition for nutrients it required. Once again it was a natural process. (albeit one that humans now purify etc.)

When you compare organisms that god supposedly created and their byproducts to abstract concepts that humans came up with like women's rights (funny choice considering how sexist religion tends to be) you just make yourself look ridiculous.



I do understand what both are. I was being ironic, in comparison to the post(s) Homicide has been making and continues to make.

Homicide I understand that you think you are right, I just dont understand how you can call everyone else f***ing retarded (etc) for not agreeing with you. Personal choice is choice man, no one else is really doing personal insults because we are discussing religion but yet you continue to do it. I dont get you man.
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 01:07 PM

Slazy. Please, just stop...
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nix only has 1 tattoo i know of and it ended up giving him a circumcision while peeling.
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 02:15 PM

View PostSlazy, on 13 April 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:

I do understand what both are. I was being ironic, in comparison to the post(s) Homicide has been making and continues to make.

Homicide I understand that you think you are right, I just dont understand how you can call everyone else f***ing retarded (etc) for not agreeing with you. Personal choice is choice man, no one else is really doing personal insults because we are discussing religion but yet you continue to do it. I dont get you man.

I don't call anybody a f***ing retard for not agreeing with me.. I call people f***ing idiots for assuming that what they were taught from birth is right...

Do you get what I mean..?
Like, what is the chance that the religion you were taught is the right thing..? With all the conflicting religions I think the odds are low.. That is all I want to show religious people and I am genuinely sorry for being aggressive towards you and Tricide.. If I continue to post, I will do it respectfully..
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:08 PM

View PostSlazy, on 13 April 2012 - 12:43 AM, said:

Saying that because things happen that isn't in Gods will proves/means there is no God is something utterly ridiculous. @seeker.

I dont understand people thinking that God should control everything/everyone and has power of everything/everyone. Just face palm so hard when people post as if God HAS to be like this, or God is not a God.


If god is all powerful then everything that happens is his will.

An omnipotent and omniscient god is a basic and fundamental part of Christian belief.

You can get into some pretty interesting arguments about if we really have free will/destiny, etc but the statement you made above would be considered retarded even by a Christian.
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:09 PM

There is 1000x more evidence of aliens interacting and guiding human civilastion than there is for God.
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:31 PM

View PostDark, on 13 April 2012 - 03:09 PM, said:

There is 1000x more evidence of aliens interacting and guiding human civilastion than there is for God.

Yes.

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When you don't know who Adz is, you know there is something wrong.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:40 PM

Mine gold for my atmosphere faggots.
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