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Posted 07 December 2011 - 03:36 PM

Hey yo, I've recently bought Starcraft 2 and I was wondering if anyone would be able to help me learn how to play properly (i.e. Best class to use, setups etc.)

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 03:38 PM

Night Elf are pretty good.
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 03:38 PM

View PostMarzyyyy, on 07 December 2011 - 03:36 PM, said:

Hey yo, I've recently bought Starcraft 2 and I was wondering if anyone would be able to help me learn how to play properly (i.e. Best class to use, setups etc.)

I suggest starting off with either Protoss or Terran. Terran is OP ;)

Check out http://www.teamliquid.net/ for some good builds.
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 03:42 PM

View PostPARK3R, on 07 December 2011 - 03:38 PM, said:

Terran is OP ;)

This is all you need to know, use it.
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 04:01 PM

View Postschmutttampon, on 07 December 2011 - 03:38 PM, said:

Night Elf are pretty good.


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View PostPARK3R, on 07 December 2011 - 03:38 PM, said:

I suggest starting off with either Protoss or Terran. Terran is OP ;)

Check out http://www.teamliquid.net/ for some good builds.



Ok sweet! thanks a lot! :D


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This is all you need to know, use it.


:D

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 04:33 PM

The worst thing to do when starting is to just go straight to specific builds. They don't teach you anything and don't give you a good enough grasp on the basics of the game.

The best thing you can do when you first start is to just jump into games and play. It doesn't matter what you do, just play. You'll learn basic stuff such as hotkeys and different units and structures. If you haven't decided what race to play, I recommend Protoss or Terran as they have relatively similar mechanics.

Once you decide on a race to play, Start trying all sorts of stuff. What happens if you play Terran, and go for a lot of early barracks? What if you go straight for a factory? This sort of testing and discovery never stops, so starting this as early as possible is always helpful.

There are a few things that you will have to learn that you will eventually do without thinking. When you first start, focus mostly on building workers and structures that give you supply (supply depots for Terran, Pylons for Protoss and Overlords for Zerg). Throughout the game, you don't want to miss a probe or miss a pylon. It doesn't matter if your minerals and gas float into the thousands (as is bound to happen), because if you can get these basics down then the rest of the game is much easier.

Once you have this fine, focus entirely on the production of units. I got to the Platinum league by focusing only on building units and just attacking the opponent's front.

There are many sources available to help you with your gameplay, such as Day[9]. Sites such as http://www.teamliquid.net are full of starcraft discussion. Make sure to catch tournaments. If you want to watch streams of the best then try http://www.teamliqui...video/streams/.

If you have any other questions, then just ask!
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 04:45 PM

View PostAusBox, on 07 December 2011 - 04:33 PM, said:

The worst thing to do when starting is to just go straight to specific builds. They don't teach you anything and don't give you a good enough grasp on the basics of the game.

The best thing you can do when you first start is to just jump into games and play. It doesn't matter what you do, just play. You'll learn basic stuff such as hotkeys and different units and structures. If you haven't decided what race to play, I recommend Protoss or Terran as they have relatively similar mechanics.

Once you decide on a race to play, Start trying all sorts of stuff. What happens if you play Terran, and go for a lot of early barracks? What if you go straight for a factory? This sort of testing and discovery never stops, so starting this as early as possible is always helpful.

There are a few things that you will have to learn that you will eventually do without thinking. When you first start, focus mostly on building workers and structures that give you supply (supply depots for Terran, Pylons for Protoss and Overlords for Zerg). Throughout the game, you don't want to miss a probe or miss a pylon. It doesn't matter if your minerals and gas float into the thousands (as is bound to happen), because if you can get these basics down then the rest of the game is much easier.

Once you have this fine, focus entirely on the production of units. I got to the Platinum league by focusing only on building units and just attacking the opponent's front.

There are many sources available to help you with your gameplay, such as Day[9]. Sites such as http://www.teamliquid.net are full of starcraft discussion. Make sure to catch tournaments. If you want to watch streams of the best then try http://www.teamliqui...video/streams/.

If you have any other questions, then just ask!


So much description! Thanks for the advice man! :)

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 04:57 PM

View PostAusBox, on 07 December 2011 - 04:33 PM, said:


The best thing you can do when you first start is to just jump into games and play. It doesn't matter what you do, just play. You'll learn basic stuff such as hotkeys and different units and structures. If you haven't decided what race to play, I recommend Protoss or Terran as they have relatively similar mechanics.


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Posted 07 December 2011 - 05:24 PM

I will be on later man, we can play some custom games for fun if you want.
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 05:52 PM

View PostAusBox, on 07 December 2011 - 04:33 PM, said:

The best thing you can do when you first start is to just jump into games and play. It doesn't matter what you do, just play. You'll learn basic stuff such as hotkeys and different units and structures. If you haven't decided what race to play, I recommend Protoss or Terran as they have relatively similar mechanics.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 12:21 PM

As Ausbox said, jump into some vs AI games and your practice matches, and just play!

Think about some core concepts:

1. keep minerals low (try to make sure your count never goes over 2000 at first, then 1500, then 1000)
2. keep units being produced at all buildings as much as possible (learn what expansions do for your economy)
3. actively try to not to get supply capped
4. use & learn hotkeys - never click to build units / upgrades!

Once you have some of those down, it's time to start looking at build orders and stuff

Give all 3 races a go and decide which playstyle you like. Terran is also the weakest race, don't listen to those guys crying imba! - source

Check out some of Day9's Newbie Tuesday vids, there's plenty of good stuff in there too
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 12:54 PM

how is learning a build the worst thing you can do? o.o

all you're doing is learning the optimal times for doing anything.
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 02:26 PM

View PostBreadfan, on 08 December 2011 - 12:21 PM, said:

Terran is also the weakest race, don't listen to those guys crying imba! - source

Hmmmmm. Not sure if serious...
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 02:57 PM

I'm actually liking Protoss atm, they're pretty cool! :D

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 06:18 PM

View PostMufasa, on 08 December 2011 - 12:54 PM, said:

how is learning a build the worst thing you can do? o.o

all you're doing is learning the optimal times for doing anything.


You don't learn anything. Anyone can just follow a list of stuff to build. You don't learn why you are building the units/structures.

Day9 has said many times that a build order is the last thing you do. If you are learning a specific style, you first learn all the possibilities and variables that go with the build, then when you know all else, you create a build order at the end of the learning process.

Build orders only become important at high diamond/master.
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 06:53 PM

That is true, but I think it is important to know the basics.
ie. 9 pylon, 13 gateway, 14 gas, cybercore when gateway is finished.
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 06:55 PM

tbh I agree with both Ausbox and Parker, you should follow an extremely basic opener (i.e for Terran 10 depot 12 rax 13 gas 15 orb 15 marine 16 depot) but after that you should just play and not follow certain builds.
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 09:31 PM

i play zerg so a build for me is when to put down my pool & hatch.

what parker said is pretty much what i meant though, it may be different for toss and terran but i don't see why it'd be bad to learn when to put down specific buildings.
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 09:36 PM

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 10:12 PM

Void Rays and Mothership are the way to go!

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