[Beware]

For those who haven't already seen it Sundance was suppose to announce the fate of Halo and CoD on the MLG Pro Circuit today via twitter but didn't end up releasing as much information as everyone thought.





It would seem the main reason that Sundance is unsure if these titles will be on the circuit is because he may not be able to receive sponsorship/funding for the titles.
If Halo and CoD to end up on the MLG Pro Circuit I doubt it would be for all 4 seasons.

[Pyroteq]

If MLG doesn't continue with Halo it's going to be a serious blow for the entire Halo community... I know ACL can continue Halo regardless, but we'll lose a lot of players that flat out refuse to play because it's "not MLG"...

I don't understand why MLG is allowing sponsors to decide what games they run with. MLG is allowing them to take creative control over their company - stupid IMO. I'd hate to see MLG turn into WCG and only feature titles sponsors want on the circuit.

[Dr Megadeth]

If Halo gets the boot, it only gives the community more incentive to improve radically for the release of Halo 4. Not that I want to see it happen, but Halo needs to stand on two feet for once.

[Beware]

Pyroteq, on 02 February 2012 - 12:21 PM, said:

If MLG doesn't continue with Halo it's going to be a serious blow for the entire Halo community... I know ACL can continue Halo regardless, but we'll lose a lot of players that flat out refuse to play because it's "not MLG"...

I don't understand why MLG is allowing sponsors to decide what games they run with. MLG is allowing them to take creative control over their company - stupid IMO. I'd hate to see MLG turn into WCG and only feature titles sponsors want on the circuit.

The event that we attended last year (Anaheim) had roughly 90 teams. The total money received from those attending teams would be 19k (again roughly). That is not enough to pay for prize money, let alone Halo's part of the venue and all the staff/equipment. To remedy this MLG could offer lower prize money but it would most likely devalue their brand and may result in fewer teams coming to tournaments. While I think tournaments with lower prize money is better then no tournaments at all I don't think that is a risk/sacrifice MLG is willing to make.

[Kus]

It wouldn't make sense if they actually continued to support Halo.

[Slazy]

what damo just said. if 2/4 seasons are halo i think we/mlg will be lucky. if mlg drops halo altogether ACL /AvT need to continue to build H:R with more maps and better settings until H4 comes out at least. interesting times in the world of esports.

[VaNzR]

So many question marks in 2012. Interesting times indeed.

[Pyroteq]

Beware, on 02 February 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:

The event that we attended last year (Anaheim) had roughly 90 teams. The total money received from those attending teams would be 19k (again roughly). That is not enough to pay for prize money, let alone Halo's part of the venue and all the staff/equipment. To remedy this MLG could offer lower prize money but it would most likely devalue their brand and may result in fewer teams coming to tournaments. While I think tournaments with lower prize money is better then no tournaments at all I don't think that is a risk/sacrifice MLG is willing to make.

Yes, I understand that money makes the world go around, but at the same time they can't pull a WCG and choose Dead or Alive as their fighting game of choice just because Microsoft gives them a nice cheque unless they want the entire competitive gaming community to laugh at them.

Kus, on 02 February 2012 - 12:38 PM, said:

It wouldn't make sense if they actually continued to support Halo.

Considering Halo practically made MLG what it currently is, it does make sense. I know they're a company and they need to make money, but abandoning the entire fan base that built them could also bite them in the ass. If Halo 4 ends up outselling the next CoD MLG could potentially have a tough time bringing Halo back to the circuit if they abandon it.

IMO the MLG settings have played a role in the decline in Halo. All the Forged maps have made watching and playing Halo a chore. I know a map needs to have good gameplay elements, but at the same time no one wants to play/watch grey maps 9/10 games and since every map is symmetrical it's making the gameplay so stale compared to Halo 1/2.

[Beware]

Halo Council discussing the future of Halo at MLG http://www.twitch.tv/gandhiMLG

[inmaniac]

Halo Council just said there is no Halo on the 2012 MLG circuit?

[Beware]

Halo: Reach - Prizes

Prizes for Regular Season Halo: Reach Events are as follows:

1st Place $20,000
2nd Place $12,000
3rd Place $8,000
4th Place $5,600
5th Place $4,000
6th Place $2,800
7th Place $2,000
8th Place $1,600

= $56, 000

2011 Pro Circuit Stipends - Halo Reach

Regular Season Competitions

Starting in Columbus, all Active members of the Halo Reach Pro Players’ Association who are registered for the Halo Reach Event, and attend, will receive $400.

I am pretty sure that is the Top 16 ranked players (correct me if I am wrong).

= $25, 600

So MLG would basically need a 100k sponsor per event to keep Reach alive. No wonder Sundance is struggling to find one, who would want to give 100k to a 'dying' game.

@Josh, I missed that. I think they are just talking as if Halo won't be in the first season.

[Mantis]

Its a shame that Halo even needs to be in this situation, Reach isnt the biggest halo title to date, we all know that, but like Ghandi said 2 months ago, this is our only community, if MLG doesnt take CoD, theres Gamebattles/Cybergamer(which offers most of there competition prize money) Halo has none of that.

We have ACL/MLG/ECL thats it.

does any1 know if theres a H4 Beta?

[Pyroteq]

Dmaq just said it's still unknown.

EDIT - Gandhi needs to turn his damn mic down, he's like 400% louder than the others.

[Pyroteq]

Mantis, on 02 February 2012 - 01:07 PM, said:

Its a shame that Halo even needs to be in this situation, Reach isnt the biggest halo title to date, we all know that, but like Ghandi said 2 months ago, this is our only community, if MLG doesnt take CoD, theres Gamebattles/Cybergamer(which offers most of there competition prize money) Halo has none of that.

We have ACL/MLG/ECL thats it.

does any1 know if theres a H4 Beta?

I imagine there will be approx 4 months before the game goes 'Gold'.

[VaNzR]

Pyroteq, on 02 February 2012 - 01:12 PM, said:

I imagine there will be approx 4 months before the game goes 'Gold'.

A beta would be months before the game goes Gold.

Going 'gold' is the final print for retail distribution.

[Macca]

Feel sorry for Sundance, he is going to cop crap either way he goes. I still think they should give Halo a rest until Halo 4.

[Pyroteq]

VaNzR, on 02 February 2012 - 01:22 PM, said:

A beta would be months before the game goes Gold.

Going 'gold' is the final print for retail distribution.

Yeah I know.

I guess 4 months probably is actually too short of time... I dunno, depends what they're actually testing and what they wanna change. If Halo 4 is supposed to be released November this year if there's going to be a beta we'd probably hear about it in a month or 2.

[Slayerx]

FFA has got to be one of the most important aspects of the growth of Halo. So many players have launched themselves into the spotlight after a top FFA performance at both MLG and ACL.

[Mantis]

Pyroteq, on 02 February 2012 - 01:37 PM, said:

Yeah I know.

I guess 4 months probably is actually too short of time... I dunno, depends what they're actually testing and what they wanna change. If Halo 4 is supposed to be released November this year if there's going to be a beta we'd probably hear about it in a month or 2.

do you guys think they will have a Beta?

Halo 4 wishlist:
Lobby host( the one who makes the lobby has host)
Ranking system
4/5 good maps with release of game
bring back the BR

[schmuttt]

Mantis, on 02 February 2012 - 01:43 PM, said:

Halo 4 wishlist:
Lobby host( the one who makes the lobby has host)
Ranking system
4/5 good maps with release of game
bring back the BR

THIS